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Post by jedi13009 on May 15, 2013 10:30:13 GMT -5
Hi again ! Saw this auction (see photo) but I don't know if these pads are fully compatible with the ddrum3 I've just bought ? I mean, do they have the position detection (which must give more life to sounds) ? Are they with Mesh heads and/or do Mesh heads recognize and transmit the position when playing ? What's a fair price for this set ? Thx again Attachments:
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Post by kyrrinstoch on May 17, 2013 11:46:04 GMT -5
If those are a center-mounted sensor (regardless of head type), they they should work pretty readily with your ddrum3 as far as the positional sensing. However, you may have to experiment with the trigger/pad type you're using to get optimal results.
I can't answer to pressure sensing in the ddrum3, as I'm not familiar enough with them to know if it was even supported with that model.
Maybe Krillo or someone with more familiarity with them could answer that...?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 2:36:57 GMT -5
These pads are the ones that shipped with the first generation ddrum gear which was units mounted in racks: m.matrixsynth.com/2011/06/clavia-ddrum-rack-vintage-digital-drum.html and also the next, the ddrum2: m.matrixsynth.com/2007/09/clavia-ddrum-2.htmlThey have hexagon shaped aluminum plates and a smaller off-center mounted piezo. Since the construction is basically the same as ddrum3 pads they probably provide some degree of position sensing, but this was not a official feature of these series. The dd3 pads feature perfectly round aluminum plates and thicker, higher grade foam with the star-cutout at the center to reduce the hot spot, which would otherwise been present due to the higher density foam used. The softer foam of the earlier series causes those pads to have "a sloppier" signal which gives false triggering using dd3 or 4 modules. You can solve this by selecting another trigg type in the module (acoustic 1, 2 etc), but then you lose the position feature. I just tested my dd3 pads, one w regular head and another w mesh and position sensing and pressure work great with both, though there was lower signal from the mesh equipped pad. That won't be a problem. Since the top foam is much thinner in the first series pads, I would guess that you would hit the plate when you use mesh heads. You will "hit through" the mesh and the thin foam. I suspect this would give a strange velocity response. In short - Don't buy them.
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Post by jedi13009 on May 18, 2013 8:12:51 GMT -5
Thx a lot guys for your time and help !!
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Post by ddrumguy on May 30, 2013 18:39:50 GMT -5
As I have just rebuilt two (YES TWO) ddrum padstations and am in the process of rebuilding a set of the pads you show I would say that i wouldnt count those pads out just yet.. First off not all of those pads had the aluminum plate, at one point i had a set and the material inside was scandinavian birch (not a shred of metal in sight).. so if thats the case position and pressure sensing are out... if they are aluminum you may be ok because the ddrum3 pads ar built the same way as far as being an aluminum plate.. I will be talking to my foam supplier at some point and will be researching to see if the dense ddrum3 blue foam is obtainable
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 14:58:46 GMT -5
The plywood is just for keeping the spacers positioned. It's in all the plastic ddrum pads.
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