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Post by perepute on Jan 11, 2012 11:35:51 GMT -5
Hi guys!!
I'm getting crazy due to yesterday i mapped all my midi notes from my DDRUM 4 SE brain. I have a problem with hi hat. The module sends same midi notes even if hi hat is open or closed. I think this is a little problem of Control Change but I don't know how to make different midi notes when hi hat is opened and closed.
Can you help me?
Thanx!!
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Post by kyrrinstoch on Jan 11, 2012 13:34:06 GMT -5
The hihat controller uses midi foot control messages for its open/close information.
If you're not specifically capturing that, or if you have sending that turned off in your module, then you won't record that information in your software.
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Post by perepute on Jan 12, 2012 5:31:10 GMT -5
I use Nuendo and foot messages are recorded but i don't know how to make the midi notes different when foot pedal is pushed down and when is not.
In Nuendo a note is recorded when i push up/down the pedal and cc4 information
is recorded as well. It's enough or do I check something else?
Thanx!
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Post by kyrrinstoch on Jan 12, 2012 9:08:40 GMT -5
You can't change the midi note numbers for the open/close of the hihat. It uses up to 8 midi notes for the pad itself (for positional sensing), but not for the open/close function. That's the foot controller messages I mentioned previously.
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Post by perepute on Jan 12, 2012 10:14:07 GMT -5
Ups, I'm a litlle newbie in this hahahah
Thank you for your replies! Just on more question...
How can I send this messages to Battery 3 theese control messages to release a closed or opened hi hat sample? I have a cell for closed samples and another different cell for opened samples. Should I use the Nuendo Logic Editor?
Thanx again!
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Post by kyrrinstoch on Jan 12, 2012 16:09:46 GMT -5
perepute - I have no idea about Battery 3 or Nuendo. I'm still using an OLD version of Cakewalk Studio...(circa '05..)  If your ddrum4 is sending MIDI out to your workstation, then it's sending the foot control messages. You just need to go through the manual for your software to determine how to capture this information. |
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Post by perepute on Jan 16, 2012 9:43:00 GMT -5
Thank you very much kyrrinstoch for your support!! I hope to help you in the future if can ;-) . I will try the midi logic editor. And I will fix this little problem (I wish to).
Take care!!
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Post by 510man on Aug 11, 2015 0:37:34 GMT -5
I know this is ad old post. For MIDI to work on a ddrum4, set Note P on the HH to 4. The MIDI note values do not follow the MIDI standard so you'll need to create a new MIDI map in your computer SW. The ddrum4 HH notes are in the nineties (95,95,97 I think).
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Post by broggers65 on Sept 19, 2018 17:35:28 GMT -5
For notation purposes I tried to see the MIDI notes generated from the HiHat. This is what I found: Whether Note P is set to 4 or 8, the closed and open pad playing generated the same MIDI notes (previously explained by moderator). With Note P value set to 4, both the open and closed pad play generated 2 MIDI notes - one in a small central area of the pad, which was the same as the foot press note (and also is the root note, as set in Note # parameter) and one for everywhere else. With Note P value set to 8, the foot press note stayed the same (ie as Note # parameter), but the two pad notes had both gone up. So, with Note P set to 8, it would be possible to play and capture notation for closed, open and foot HHat, albeit in an unconventional playing method. Also, a foot 'splash' generated a distinct MIDI note as well (it also did this for Not P set to 4). [summary - Note P=4 gave 3 MIDI notes, and 8 gave 4 MIDI notes].
In terms of live input for notation software capture, a scenario could be: Note P value to 8 for HHat, 1 for drum pads and 2 for cymbals (or 1 if there's no bell requirement). The MIDI notes could then be mapped to the software drum map being used.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 0:11:04 GMT -5
Actually what MIDI data is sent is dependent on the sound chosen in the dd4. If you use it only for outputting MIDI, i.e not assigning any internal hihat sound, less data is transmitted. Some sounds trigger a lot of CC data, for example:
CC04 Foot Pedal
CC05 Portamento time
CC07 Volume
CC11 Expression
CC22 (undefined)
CC67 Soft Pedal
CC92 Tremolo
CC95 Phaser level
Also footsplash can generate 2 different MIDI-notes. Often combinations are triggered, for example both foot chick and foot splash at the same time.
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