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Post by dewaaachner on Nov 30, 2010 18:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by lite on Dec 1, 2010 6:58:35 GMT -5
From what I've read the Pintech adapter isn't a decent choice. It does not support all the articulations from close to open as the ddrum hi-hat pad does. I've never tried it. That's just what I've read from people using it.
To get the circuit/electronics you could slaughter a ddrum hi-hat pad. Basically it's just an electronic board with a sensor. If the magnet is close to the sensor → closed hi-hat. If the magnet moves away from the sensor → hi-hat opening.
In the old ddrum forum someone has put the magnet just beneath the hi-hat pedal. The electronics with the sensor have been positioned below. When the pedal is stepped down the magnet moves towards the sensor. This way he could use every hi-hat pad providing a simple mono trigger signal. You don't need to use the original ddrum magnet. Other magnets with appropriate strength will do the job and they fit beneath the pedal.
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Post by dewaaachner on Dec 1, 2010 17:36:24 GMT -5
Oh cool, now I need to find someone to explain me the scheme.
Should be no problem.
Thanks a lot!
Frank
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Post by barriteau on Dec 20, 2010 21:38:54 GMT -5
Hello krillo,
I've been looking for this schematic since my ddrum4se hi-hat controller died recently, amazing to find it, thanks a lot my friend.
Just a question, there is an unidentified component, the triple wired square at the top, I assume it is the magnetic field sensor, my questions is if you have an idea of which one must be used, some model, or maybe a way to identify it, you know something about it?
Thanks in advance
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2011 10:34:57 GMT -5
Hello krillo, I've been looking for this schematic since my ddrum4se hi-hat controller died recently, amazing to find it, thanks a lot my friend. Just a question, there is an unidentified component, the triple wired square at the top, I assume it is the magnetic field sensor, my questions is if you have an idea of which one must be used, some model, or maybe a way to identify it, you know something about it? Thanks in advance Sorry for the delayed anwer! The unmarked component is called "hall effect sensor" and it is, as you correctly said a magnetic field sensor. One pin is power supply, one is GND and the third is output. Since it's mounted in the cast part, I didn't take it out. I think there aren't too many variants possible for this component since the supply voltage is known and the component housing type. I'd try a A1301, A1302 or a UGN3503. Datasheets are available online. They're around $2 a piece. Here's a pic of the PCB: www.mediafire.com/i/?59a61z5jw454vjw
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Post by hammondolog on Feb 27, 2011 19:58:08 GMT -5
Hi, could you help me to make a magnetic clutch for My cast Ddrum hi-hat pad. the clutch is missing.. and it's unobtainable.. what's the secret inside it how can I replace a magnet? someone help me please,,,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2011 14:08:37 GMT -5
It's just a donut shaped magnet inside. Get a small speaker and tear out the magnet, put it on a regular hihat clutch.
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Post by rumpujii on May 30, 2011 7:15:50 GMT -5
It's just a donut shaped magnet inside. Get a small speaker and tear out the magnet, put it on a regular hihat clutch. Is that so simple? I just bought ddrum4 SE with latest update (1.54?) and it worked. But when i get it to home, it doesn`t work anymore. Now hihat is just open. Is it possible that got some hit during traveling? Is there any components what brakes? (i mean`t that ddrum gray clutch)... I got to steal some magnet from our fridges door (some silly fruit shaped ) and just test if hihat close when i`m putting magnet to it... then it is just that simple. But if that doesn`t work, is there any other suggestion how i repair that? Or even worse, if that malfunction is in that brain? And of course, Hello to all from Finland.
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Post by sam(otacon28) on May 30, 2011 16:52:19 GMT -5
Is that so simple? I just bought ddrum4 SE with latest update (1.54?) and it worked. But when i get it to home, it doesn`t work anymore. Now hihat is just open. Is it possible that got some hit during traveling? Is there any components what brakes? (i mean`t that ddrum gray clutch)... I got to steal some magnet from our fridges door (some silly fruit shaped ) and just test if hihat close when i`m putting magnet to it... then it is just that simple. But if that doesn`t work, is there any other suggestion how i repair that? Or even worse, if that malfunction is in that brain? And of course, Hello to all from Finland. It sounds to me like your hihat controller just needs re-calibrated . It's a pretty common thing that happens when ddrum4 kits get moved around and it's pretty easy to correct . If you're not sure how to do that here's the step by step below : How to calibrate the Cast Hi-Hat 1. Let the Hi-Hat clutch fall down on the Hi-Hat Controller by its own weight. 2. Go to the System Trig input mode for channel 10. Set the setting to HHt. 3. Without touching the Hi-Hat stand, press SHIFT and EXIT. The display will shortly show CAL and the setting will be stored. 4. Secure the Hi-Hat clutch at a comfortable height for playing. sam(otacon28)
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Post by rumpujii on Jun 14, 2011 2:51:18 GMT -5
It sounds to me like your hihat controller just needs re-calibrated . It's a pretty common thing that happens when ddrum4 kits get moved around and it's pretty easy to correct . If you're not sure how to do that here's the step by step below : How to calibrate the Cast Hi-Hat 1. Let the Hi-Hat clutch fall down on the Hi-Hat Controller by its own weight. 2. Go to the System Trig input mode for channel 10. Set the setting to HHt. 3. Without touching the Hi-Hat stand, press SHIFT and EXIT. The display will shortly show CAL and the setting will be stored. 4. Secure the Hi-Hat clutch at a comfortable height for playing. sam(otacon28) Thank`s Sam for this, but re-calibrating didn`t work Hihat still works only open-mode. I`l have to try find magnet and try that trick with hihat next. Or is there something else that i need to try first?
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Post by sam(otacon28) on Jun 14, 2011 5:27:33 GMT -5
It sounds to me like your hihat controller just needs re-calibrated . It's a pretty common thing that happens when ddrum4 kits get moved around and it's pretty easy to correct . If you're not sure how to do that here's the step by step below : How to calibrate the Cast Hi-Hat 1. Let the Hi-Hat clutch fall down on the Hi-Hat Controller by its own weight. 2. Go to the System Trig input mode for channel 10. Set the setting to HHt. 3. Without touching the Hi-Hat stand, press SHIFT and EXIT. The display will shortly show CAL and the setting will be stored. 4. Secure the Hi-Hat clutch at a comfortable height for playing. sam(otacon28) Thank`s Sam for this, but re-calibrating didn`t work Hihat still works only open-mode. I`l have to try find magnet and try that trick with hihat next. Or is there something else that i need to try first? Have you checked to make sure that you're using the ( stereo ) cable for the hihat controller ? All of the other channels on the module ( 1-9 ) are mono and use cables with just a single ring on the jack end . The stereo end cable will be the only cable that needs to be hooked into a ddrum4 module with 2 black rings on the end . It's a pretty common thing to overlook , so I'm just trying to cover the usual reasons why the hihat controller's may not work properly . Another thing is have you tried any of the other hihat sound samples in the module ? Sometimes samples can have an issue and just need to deleted and reloaded in the module to work properly again . These are a few of the first things that come to mind , sam(otacon28)
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Post by rumpujii on Jun 16, 2011 7:47:47 GMT -5
Have you checked to make sure that you're using the ( stereo ) cable for the hihat controller ? All of the other channels on the module ( 1-9 ) are mono and use cables with just a single ring on the jack end . The stereo end cable will be the only cable that needs to be hooked into a ddrum4 module with 2 black rings on the end . It's a pretty common thing to overlook , so I'm just trying to cover the usual reasons why the hihat controller's may not work properly . Another thing is have you tried any of the other hihat sound samples in the module ? Sometimes samples can have an issue and just need to deleted and reloaded in the module to work properly again . These are a few of the first things that come to mind , sam(otacon28) Well, actually i haven`t even thought about that. I got wires with that module, labelled as hihat, crash1 etc... I have used those, but haven`t check is that cable really stereo. sounds i have setted and by pressing modules button i got click-sound but playing hihat pad i got open hihat. Thanks Sam again. EDIT: Cable was mono, but changed to stereo. Problem stays still. I also tried differend sounds. I noticed that i played bassdrum pad (roland kd8) and i added same hihat sound to bd pad, it sounded closed hihat, in hihat pad that sound is hihat open. So maybe there`s problem with that sensor? I might try that magnet thing before deleting sounds and upload those... i`m not very good with this brain yet, so deleting can be hazard to do by me ;D
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Post by lawrenceadoss on Nov 28, 2011 3:01:45 GMT -5
Hello krillo, I've been looking for this schematic since my ddrum4se hi-hat controller died recently, amazing to find it, thanks a lot my friend. Just a question, there is an unidentified component, the triple wired square at the top, I assume it is the magnetic field sensor, my questions is if you have an idea of which one must be used, some model, or maybe a way to identify it, you know something about it? Thanks in advance Sorry for the delayed anwer! The unmarked component is called "hall effect sensor" and it is, as you correctly said a magnetic field sensor. One pin is power supply, one is GND and the third is output. Since it's mounted in the cast part, I didn't take it out. I think there aren't too many variants possible for this component since the supply voltage is known and the component housing type. I'd try a A1301, A1302 or a UGN3503. Datasheets are available online. They're around $2 a piece. Here's a pic of the PCB: www.mediafire.com/i/?59a61z5jw454vjwGuys... I dont think that cast pasrt is a hall efect sensor..it is most likely the POT.. the hall effect senor is the small 3 legged device right next to the IC. Can you please get more pics of the PCB, front and back would be great and also can you please let me us know where you got teh circuit from.. there are somethings that dont make sense, like the supply going to the hall effect sensors ground, I dont see a Zener there, etc. TIA. Lawrence
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2011 8:34:32 GMT -5
Guys... I dont think that cast pasrt is a hall efect sensor..it is most likely the POT.. the hall effect senor is the small 3 legged device right next to the IC. Can you please get more pics of the PCB, front and back would be great and also can you please let me us know where you got teh circuit from.. there are somethings that dont make sense, like the supply going to the hall effect sensors ground, I dont see a Zener there, etc. TIA. Lawrence I have updated and corrected the schematic, the earlier one was incorrect. (I removed the post, couldn't figure out how to just change the attached schematic.) I've also created a shared folder containing all related documents and photos here www.mediafire.com/?974y0ddcj72r0
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Post by lawrenceadoss on Nov 29, 2011 0:42:12 GMT -5
Guys... I dont think that cast pasrt is a hall efect sensor..it is most likely the POT.. the hall effect senor is the small 3 legged device right next to the IC. Can you please get more pics of the PCB, front and back would be great and also can you please let me us know where you got teh circuit from.. there are somethings that dont make sense, like the supply going to the hall effect sensors ground, I dont see a Zener there, etc. TIA. Lawrence I have updated and corrected the schematic, the earlier one was incorrect. I've also created a shared folder containing all related documents and photos here www.mediafire.com/?974y0ddcj72r0Krillo ----Thanks a ton.... Very nice of you to do this..... Regards, Lawrence
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