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Post by lite on Oct 26, 2010 9:58:28 GMT -5
I have just kind of discovered a "random mode" in the ddrum3. You usually built a multisample by designing different velocity layers and zones. I've come across a certain clavia multisample (NLPERC15 - nordlead sample) that plays three different samples by random. I've split the multisample into its single samples. When I choose the master sample and start to rebuild a multisample again it does not offer the velocity/position adjustments (1-8, etc.) but it says "random mode". As you can see on the two photos attached. So the ddrum3 can handle random samples but I am afraid it's just possible with clavia factory sounds. Do you have any idea about it? It would be great to have own random samples in the ddrum3. Maybe changing some value in the header of a sound on a PC/Mac?! 1st: normal multisample built-up with velocity and zones: Attachments:
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Post by lite on Oct 26, 2010 9:58:59 GMT -5
2nd: clavia multisample rebuild with random mode: Attachments:
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Post by drumkat49 on Oct 29, 2010 9:48:37 GMT -5
This also works with user samples. There is a special combination of button pushes that must be done to access this hidden feature.
This hidden feature also let's you create samples that are posphased.
This is a positional phasing which can be heard on the cowbell samples of the stock ddrum3 sounds. If using a ddrum3 pad, you can hear the timbre change as if you were hitting the cowbell at different locations.
Another hidden feature is roll mode....which is basically useless.
The sound will play at a lower volume with successive hits.
For the life of me, I can't remember the button pushes to access these hidden features. I have to have the ddrum3 right in front of me to do this. I will post as soon as I get back to my studio.
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Post by lite on Oct 30, 2010 8:20:22 GMT -5
Hey drumkat,
it's awesome that someone knows about it :-)
Would love to know the button combinations.
I'll check the cowbell clavia sound.
Thank You very much! :-)
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Post by lite on Oct 30, 2010 10:16:30 GMT -5
Another question: Is it also possible to use the posphase feature with onw built multisamples? Or just with single samples?
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Post by drumkat49 on Oct 30, 2010 11:08:39 GMT -5
So this is what you need to do to access these hidden features.
1. Turn the unit on.
2. hit and hold the sound button while also pressing the button on the left underneath the screen,"there are 3 buttons" and also pressing the "edit sample button"
You will immediately see posphase pop up on the screen. With each initial press on the edit sample button you will see the roll mode as well as the usual stuff that is always there.
Once you've activated this hidden feature, it will remain active till the unit is turned off. So you only need to do it at start-up.
So remember.....press these 3 buttons simultaneously and you will be good to go.
Yes as far as I can remember it works with multisamples.
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Post by lite on Oct 30, 2010 18:37:13 GMT -5
This is awesome! Thank You very much! Can't wait to try it when I'm back home.
Thanks again. No hint in the manual about such a nice feature.
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Post by lite on Nov 3, 2010 13:08:59 GMT -5
Just tried it. It works :-)
I get several parameters.
POSPHASE (0-255) RANGE (0-255, limited by posphase value), DVA (0-6)
So it is kind of a phasing effect? Many years ago I've read about clavia's so called "ddrum drum head vibration algorithm" used to kill the machine gun effect. AFAIK this algo was only available with ddrum factory sounds. Maybe this hidden DVA value is the access to this feature for own samples? The letters DVA remind me to this.
drumkat, do you know what the three values actually do?
Next is RANDOM with MULTI (on/off) and START (on/off).
This is self explaining. But I've found the start point variation repeating in some certain order again and again. And the start point was moved pretty much towards the end of the sample sometimes.
ROLL (I think it was 0-7) and EXP.DEC (0-31?).
Nothing happened here. No matter what I've selected. Did I miss something?
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Post by drumkat49 on Nov 9, 2010 20:34:31 GMT -5
It's a bit of a mystery to me. I know that the lower the values the wider the phasing and as you ramp up the numbers the phasing becomes tighter. Is it useful? I think minimally as an effect..... but it's something that was never made for primetime.
And your right about the random mode getting stuck. That's another feature that is semi-useful at best.
Sorry i couldn't shed any light on this subject.
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Post by lite on Nov 10, 2010 2:10:16 GMT -5
I've started to play around a little bit with the parameters. I've got the DVA to work. It only works if you have set a posphase value. For example: Choose posphase 127 (the small numbers result in unnatural flanging effects), set DVA to 6. On the other page set roll mode to 7 and EXP.DEC to 31. I used the trigger feature with 100 (fastest roll) to play the sound at the exact same velocity and the same sample. This way you can usually get a typical machine gun roll. While holding the trigger button and playing the roll, change the DVA value between zero and 6. You hear the difference as the machine gun effect is reduced. And this is just within a single sample at same velocity. It works also on multisamples. I think it's a great feature for my own samples as every single sample in its velocity range is tweaked in terms of anti-machine-gun. I've stepped thru some stock sounds and noticed these parameters are used frequently. I’ve to play around a little bit more with these values to get a better understanding. But I think the DVA stuff is pretty powerful and unique among edrum modules  |
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Post by mesursur on Nov 12, 2010 10:36:57 GMT -5
He Lite, we talked about it on the 2box forum. Nice features. Damn, who had thought that there was a hidden menu. Thanks drumkat.
@ drumkat, how dit you know?
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Post by drumkat49 on Nov 12, 2010 12:42:10 GMT -5
I spent many hours on the phone with the owner of Armadiilo percussion who were the US distributer for ddrum way back many years ago.
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Post by Renato Vieira from Brazil on Feb 17, 2019 9:01:22 GMT -5
I spent many hours on the phone with the owner of Armadiilo percussion who were the US distributer for ddrum way back many years ago. I Just acquired a DDrum3 but it came without the manual, so I´m in the dark regarding its features, can anyone tell where can I find these infos or where can I download the manual ? thanks ! |
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Post by Renato Vieira from Brazil on Feb 17, 2019 9:03:23 GMT -5
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